We had the good fortune of connecting with Lucia Kanter St. Amour and we’ve shared our conversation below.
Hi Lucia, what was your thought process behind starting your own business?
Well, it wasn’t the plan; it was a matter of necessity. Six years into practicing law, in 2004, I had my first child who turned out to have a profound disability. I was managing a team of 14 interventionists for him at one point, with my second baby hoisted on my hip. I needed work that I could control and provided me autonomy. Ten years into practicing law and five years into my job as a law professor teaching negotiation, I went to Harvard Law School for my mediation certification, hung out my own shingle and started mediating cases. Little did I know at that time my decision would take my career international, lead me to UN Women USA as a VP, to starting my own nonprofit organization for other families with special needs children, or to becoming a best-selling author as one of only about half dozen women authors on my topic: negotiation. You just never know how life might unfold! I doubt any of that would have happened if I I hadn’t been forced to re-think everything; if I’d been able to remain in the predictable full-time legal career path I was already traveling at the time. And I wouldn’t have it any other way!
Can you open up a bit about your work and career? We’re big fans and we’d love for our community to learn more about your work.
I filled my book, “For the Forces of Good: The Superpower of Everyday Negotiation” with my own original artwork. It’s a reminder that negotiation, in addition to being a skill, is an art. Art is extremely important. It is what got me through the early days, weeks, and months of 2022, which I began as a broken doll from enduring a prolonged and highly organized group bullying campaign in 2021 as the president/CEO of a very male dominated sports organization—following 94 years of men in that position. I took sabbatical from my law practice starting 1/1/2022 because I had been in other people’s conflict for 25 years and was in no condition to do so. I cried every day for 2 months. I trail-hiked every day with my Chocolate Labrador – and I hauled out all the art supplies one accumulates over the years as a mother (most of them unused), and just started making messes with color (I have no training in art, but have been a life-long supporter and lover of the arts). I found myself at peace when I was making those messes, and hours would pass without my noticing. So, I decided to include many of them in my book – the only negotiation book I know of with fun amateur artwork!
Any places to eat or things to do that you can share with our readers? If they have a friend visiting town, what are some spots they could take them to?
To start off, we would linger for a long time each morning over slow pour-over coffee (no auto coffee machines in my home) on my deck with its panoramic mountain view while my dog barked at the squirrels and I shouted at him to “sta tranquillo!” (he only speaks Italian). We would hike the trails surrounding my home (with my Chocolate Labrador); I would cook very legitimate Italian cuisine (not a huge fan of going out to eat – but it would be fun to have drinks at the Tonga Room at the Fairmont Hotel and go for Dim Sum); we would see some art; we would go to Ocean Beach; we might participate in a Japanese tea ceremony with a friend of mine who does that; we would see the Diego Rivera murals at Coit Tower; we would visit the giant sequoias in Muir Woods; we might drive to Monterey for a sail and whale watching OR just pop over to Angel Island on the ferry. If they’ve never ridden on a cable car, we’d need to do that. It’s charming.
The Shoutout series is all about recognizing that our success and where we are in life is at least somewhat thanks to the efforts, support, mentorship, love and encouragement of others. So is there someone that you want to dedicate your shoutout to?
This is a shout out to sparkling mentorship. Mentorship seems to be a dying category of relationships these days. Law school was not the plan for me. I didn’t think I was cut out for it. Out of college (Go Bears!) I took a job with a small firm of arbitrators and mediators. They genuinely invested in my development and I’m still close with them today. Because of their mentorship, I summoned the courage for law school. And the hip bone is connected to the thigh bone is connect to the knee bone. I also had a particular mentor who inspired me to start my own nonprofit organization. Without my mentors, who were always there for me (without pumping false sunshine up my skirt), I wouldn’t be where or who I am today. People think of me as “powerful.” They call me things like a “Tour de Force,” which strikes me as humous given my small physical stature and modest midwestern upbringing. Well, I’m the product of a consistent support structure who was there to help peel me off the pavement and dust me off when I fell down – over and over again.
Website: https://www.pactumfactum.com
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciakanterstamour/
Other: Podcast: https://pactumfactum.substack.com Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92HCMWB
Image Credits
Photos by James Brian Photography